Independent Thinking: Can the UK take on the EU, US and China?

Janka Oertel and Sir Martin Donnelly join the podcast ahead of the UK-EU summit to discuss how the UK can manage its ties with the European Union, United States and China.

Audio Published 16 May 2025 Updated 22 May 2025 30 minute listen

As trade tensions, security concerns, and diplomatic crossroads converge, the UK’s bid for economic growth faces hard choices on the global stage. In this episode host Bronwen Maddox explores the UK’s complex balancing act between the EU, US and China with guests Janka Oertel and Sir Martin Donnelly.

About Independent Thinking

Independent Thinking is a weekly international affairs podcast hosted by our director Bronwen Maddox, in conversation with leading policymakers, journalists, and Chatham House experts providing insight on the latest international issues.

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