Independent Thinking: Will China lead a post-American world?

China is advancing where the US is retreating. James Kynge and Samir Puri join Bronwen Maddox on Chatham House’s weekly podcast.

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Published 12 September 2025

Updated 17 September 2025 — 30 minute listen

Are we moving into a post-American world and if so will China try to lead and set the rules for it?

In the face of American withdrawal, China senses an opportunity to shape a new world order. This week on Independent Thinking, Samir Puri and James Kynge join Bronwen Maddox to discuss the changing nature of the international order.

About Independent Thinking

Independent Thinking is a weekly international affairs podcast hosted by our director Bronwen Maddox, in conversation with leading policymakers, journalists, and Chatham House experts providing insight on the latest international issues.

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