Trump Year One – China’s economic rivalry with the US is here to stay | Independent Thinking podcast

Tariffs, technological competition and a US drive to carve out hemispheres of influence between the US and China marked the opening months of President Donald Trump’s second term.

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Published 15 December 2025 — 40 minute listen

In the last Independent Thinking podcast of 2025, host Bronwen Maddox is joined by David Lubin, senior research fellow with Chatham House’s Global Economy and Finance Programme; Dr Marion Messmer, director of the International Security Programme; and Yu Jie, a senior research fellow on China in Chatham House’s Asia-Pacific Programme.  

For further analysis read ‘The economics of the new Monroe Doctrine’ by David Lubin, examining how President Trump’s actions seem to indicate the emergence of a hemispheric US foreign policy.

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