Independent Thinking: What does Ukraine need to get through the winter?

Ukrainian officials and analysts discuss the state of the war in Ukraine and the cost it has inflicted on the country almost four years after Russia’s full-scale invasion.

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Published 14 November 2025

Updated 16 December 2025 — 30 minute listen

Andriy Zagorodnyuk

Former Minister of Defence of Ukraine

Nearly four years after Russia’s full-scale invasion, Ukrainian officials and analysts look at the prospects for a ceasefire, and at the military, economic and human cost that President Vladimir Putin’s campaign has inflicted on the country. 

They discuss the Russian strikes on Ukraine’s energy infrastructure, intended to demoralize the civilian population, and what European allies should do to bolster its defence efforts and to rebuild the country if there is a ceasefire. 

Host Bronwen Maddox is joined by Andriy Zagorodnyuk, a former minister of defence of Ukraine; Daryna Marchak, Ukraine’s deputy minister of economy, environment and agriculture; Olha Aivazovska, chair of the board of the Opora Civic Network; Simon Smith, chair of Chatham House’s Ukraine Forum; and Dominic Nicholls, associate editor of The Telegraph

The discussion came as Chatham House hosted a conference - ‘War in Ukraine: The battleground for the future of Europe’

Read our latest analysis: Ukraine’s best defence against Putin’s energy war is more attacks on Russia’s oil refining sector

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